Molly Rosenblum is an attorney and Owner of Rosenblum Allen Law Firm, where they provide their clients with real answers to real-world problems. Some of Molly’s specialties include divorce, custody, adoption, termination of parental rights, personal injury, medical malpractice, accidents, and traffic ticket negotiation. She is actively engaged in representing individuals and small businesses in litigation.
In 2002, Molly graduated with a Juris Doctor degree in law from the William S. Boyd School of Law at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas. That same year, she became a member of the Nevada Bar Association. Before opening her firm, Molly was an Attorney at Cobeaga Tomlinson.
Here’s a glimpse of what you’ll learn:
- Molly Rosenblum talks about practicing divorce and dependency law
- How family law assists individuals through life changes
- Molly shares one of her proudest moments as an attorney
- Preparing for difficult situations and remaining goal-oriented
- Molly explains why you shouldn’t sacrifice your values for a case
- Why you need to be direct and concise when speaking to a judge
- What are some hobbies Molly enjoys?
- How software management tools can aid in the daily tasks of law firms
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Michael Renfro 0:13
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Molly Rosenblum 1:18
Focus on? Hi, Michael. Thanks for having me today.
Michael Renfro 1:23
You’re welcome. Thank you for coming.
Molly Rosenblum 1:26
As Michael introduced Molly Rosenblum. I am in Las Vegas, Nevada. And I am the divorce lawyer in Las Vegas, our firm practices primarily in divorce law, family law and criminal defense. We do do some other areas, as more tangential to our practice. But we are our main focus
Michael Renfro 1:46
this family. And I would imagine like like many of the main focuses, obviously, then then divorce with probably a lot of child custody and child support followed by that.
Molly Rosenblum 1:57
Right. Yes, we do focus on child custody, we do. Also child support. We are a little bit unique in the family law practice here in Las Vegas, because we do have some some other areas that most firms don’t focus on our practice also does dependency law, which is representing parents who’ve had their their children by the state. So we do do that as well
Michael Renfro 2:22
And just a quick question out of the blue. Do you folks, because I imagine you probably have one or two strong litigators, if it ends up going to trial where you’ve had those. I mean, I know those get nasty, but I imagine you have some good experience and litigation as well.
Molly Rosenblum 2:40
Yes, we are a trial law practice. Our firm generally has, I would say maybe three to five trials a week scheduled in between our family law and our law practice. So
Michael Renfro 2:52
Right. Well, I you know, the thing that led me to that is when I heard criminal defense, that’s usually because you’re good at fighting. So you might as well fight for, you know, the the innocent criminals as well as the ones that are trying to split up a relationship and not ruin their lives, right.
Molly Rosenblum 3:09
Sometimes those things go hand in hand, right? You get occasional family law mixed in with with
Michael Renfro 3:18
the criminal Yes, I Yes. Unfortunately, I’m all too aware of that, I will just make a quick one. But when my first ex and I split, let’s just say she made a visit and ended up being escorted away by police, which meant there was now the inclusion of an arrest within the breakup. And you already know where all that can go. So what I will say is, it’s always good to have in my personal opinion, in fact, my my attorney was not only a female, but she also practiced, practiced criminal defense as well. And I think that that really gives you an advantage. If you have any foresight that your divorce is going to get ugly. If you think it’s going to be easy, then, you know, go do the $500 guys that are you know, I mean, do that if you both have sat down and it’s already pretty much planned out, get the $500 but if you have what you think is going to even have a chance at ugliness, go and pay a $5,000 retainer and know that you’re probably going to spend more and be very happy that you did ultimately versus what you will pay otherwise.
Molly Rosenblum 4:27
To Yes, we often tell our clients I think probably more than other firms we do our best to encourage people especially going through divorce or custody matter to try to some of their their best as possible selves right rather than spending their children’s college education on lawyers but if they truly cannot, then we are happy to step in and help them out.
Michael Renfro 4:51
And I you know I love that that attitude right out of the gate because you’re probably like almost every obviously I’ve been through the wringer and ended up having three attorneys with that one I split up, by the way. And one of the things that every single attorney and I think it’s just common practice amongst family attorneys is, hey, as much as you can work it out with her, it’s going to be better. But understand that I am here for you if you can’t, and that’s pretty much the same, at least from what I have seen, or what I feel like is a good family attorney, because they nobody wants to go down that road, you know? And if they don’t have to, because it’s just, it’s always ugly. There’s nothing you do. And that leads me to my first question, how did you get started in the in the family arena, because a lot of times folks are in a practice area that was not necessarily where they planned on ending up when they got started. So I’m curious if that’s the same for you?
Molly Rosenblum 5:41
Yeah, so I kind of tell the same story when people ask me that, you know, first day of law school, and I went to law school here in Vegas at Boyd, and I don’t know if they do it anymore, because law school is relatively new, but they asked you, you know, what do you think you want to do when to practice? And I think my answer was something like, Oh, I’m going to be a corporate securities lawyer, I’m going to work for the casinos. And I’m I don’t want a whole vision. I was I was pretty, pretty set. And, interestingly enough, when I graduated, I got a job working for an individual in his firm, who did personal injury, high end personal injury law, right. I did that for a few years and joined another firm, where I did really, really high end medical malpractice cases, very complex, very intellectually difficult. A lot of time, a lot of effort. And I think the final straw for me came with the with a insurance company who was just simply refusing to
Michael Renfro 6:52
pay anyone just a nasty company.
Molly Rosenblum 6:55
Yeah. And it was just very difficult. At the time in Las Vegas, there was a outbreak of hepatitis C caused by physician negligence.
Michael Renfro 7:04
If you don’t want to ask him what
Molly Rosenblum 7:06
2005 Six ish?
Michael Renfro 7:10
So this has been a while done, almost 20 years now.
Molly Rosenblum 7:13
Yeah, almost 20 years. So yeah, and it just became really difficult to settle cases and resolve cases. And,
Michael Renfro 7:21
like, you guys had an early version of what the pandemic was gonna be like there in your, in your capsule, if you will.
Molly Rosenblum 7:28
Yeah. And I had a little boy who had been really damaged by a physician’s negligence, and I just became so frustrated with the system, that I thought I have to do something else. And a friend of
Michael Renfro 7:40
mine, there are such a thing as morals, even for attorneys, right? There
Molly Rosenblum 7:45
are and Yeah, and so I was fortunate that a friend of mine was starting sort of a different, multi faceted practice. And he had an opportunity for a family law attorney. And I thought, well, this is really different. And I don’t really know a whole lot about family law, but sure, I’ll come on over and, and we’ll make it go a bit. And we did. And I was sort of hooked. I mean, I just I love the idea that I’m helping individuals, real people, helping them through, you know, really life changing situations. That’s
Michael Renfro 8:17
one of the top five, I mean, anybody I’m sure that’s part of your spiel not to sound rude or anything else like that. But you know, funnily enough divorce is higher on the than the marriage. So, you know, it’s, it’s true in every way, it’s almost always inevitably cheaper to get married than it is to get that divorce. And it’s a lot less stressful to there’s no, it’s I think it’s just simply put, one is a joyous stress. So even though it’s stressful, it’s a joyous time. So the stress is a little easier to handle right but divorce is the exact opposite. And it’s one of those what does it marriage job divorce, moving? And what is the fifth one? There’s one more I’m leaving out. Death, death. I believe it’s death. Or and birth might be I think birth and death are like tied for that because they, you know, similar to really divorce and marriage if you think yeah,
Molly Rosenblum 9:11
it is. I mean, doing what we do. People’s lives are different forever, right? Whether it’s getting alimony paying alimony losing your house, your money, your life, your house. Yeah, it’s a major, major that acronym yet that Google
Michael Renfro 9:26
developed for you folks. I talked to a lot of lawyers about it, but I’ve heard that why and while I know, yeah, so Google, they, you know, they do updates, right. And when they did what was called the medic update, and I believe this was 2018. If I’m not mistaken. They added a new acronym that basically told the world what they thought of attorneys, doctors, accountants, anybody who holds a license and you’ll get this on the white collar side that affects your money your life. Yes, attorneys are one of the One of the few if not the only one they actually named by, by industry. So as an example, so that obviously gives you an idea of where Google sees attorneys and understands the impact of having an attorney for anything. I mean, it really, you know, everybody tries to argue that I’m like, what do you use an attorney for? You use them just like Seinfeld. You know, it’s funny enough, but he really said it. attorneys know the rules. And then you pick the attorney that knows the rules to that particular thing. Because otherwise you’re going in blind. Right? Right. That has a huge effect on your money and your life. It doesn’t matter if it’s business, divorce, personal injury, it really doesn’t matter. You’re you’re deciding and going with someone who’s going to represent you and can change and will in fact, the outcome is going to change your life one way or another. So yeah, exactly. Right. Exactly. Right. I think it’s funny, too, that you could you went in basically with a with a leap of faith not really having any real experience in it. You’re like, yeah, I just want to try this. And that’s awesome. That worked out.
Molly Rosenblum 11:00
So it’s been a better part of what a decade and a half give or take.
Michael Renfro 11:03
Yeah, it doesn’t look like you’re leaving anytime soon. What were those early days, like, in the new practice where you were practicing family for the first time?
Molly Rosenblum 11:13
Yeah, it was a lot of learning curve. A lot of getting to know people, more so than, I think in personal injury, to a certain extent, they’re sort of an arm’s length practice, sort of, you know, people come in, and they
Michael Renfro 11:30
they don’t really tell you much about their life, just what this incident, right? This is the accident, don’t ask me anything else.
Molly Rosenblum 11:37
Right. And you may learn a little bit maybe about like their work or how the injury has impacted them. But you don’t really get involved in in really every aspect, right? So a lot of the learning curve for me was just trying to sort through what’s really important to get this person beyond this relationship and beyond. And how we can do that efficiently and cost effectively because it is very different than personal injury, where it’s sort of that contingency, and you don’t get paid for, you know, when a client wants to call and talk to you money, and it’s not moving their case forward, right, it is it’s money out of their pocket. And so, you know, kind of figuring out how to talk to clients was a big learning curve. For me, the substantive law was a little easier. I think, just as a lawyer, you know, you’re trying to read the law and kind of know things. So yeah, kind of out of the gate, those were sort of some of the biggest hurdles at the outset. You know, and just kind of finding my place in that practice areas. So yeah,
Michael Renfro 12:38
so I would definitely from from listening to you, I would say one of the biggest things you learned was, if you didn’t already know, you learned very quickly how to be a people person, but at the same time with your arms distance. So because you know, I tell people this a lot, but particularly criminal defense, and family, even more so than criminal defense. But they’re more like the, the therapists of the law industry. And they really, you know, when they have a client, again, this is all from experience on both of those types of attorneys. I’ve got my checkered past. And everybody knows it. But I mean, the reality is, you pretty much have to pour your soul to somebody who’s either a defending you of a crime or be trying to get you out of a relationship in the path of least resistance, if you will, right, then right, the more you know, as my representation, then the better you have the better opportunity you as the attorney have at actually making sure I get through this. And, yeah, it’s funny, because you folks, truly take a lot you have that same, you, you have to find a what’s the word I’m looking for a boundary, there’s a boundary that has to be in place where you can hear all that take all that and not let it destroy you emotionally. So that you can win when you agree on that. And more so than any other practice areas.
Molly Rosenblum 14:03
Yeah, I think, um, you know, again, it’s sort of part of my job is counseling right and helping people. Literally, you’re a counselor. Right, but then also trying to sort of really get them to brass tacks, how does this help you advance what you’re trying to do in the end of this relationship or CO parent with this? And so a lot of it is figuring that out, and helping people kind of get there from a legal standpoint. Oh, that makes sense.
Michael Renfro 14:34
So in the last 16, I think I’m gonna write now 16 years, what would you say is the biggest milestone that you’re most proud of?
Molly Rosenblum 14:43
Um, I think I have had, I think, as much as I represent parents. Probably my favorite case is representing kids. I could hear it. I represented it. pro bono case through our pro bono project here locally and I represented two children whose mom unfortunately, was not in a good way and had had some pretty severe drug issues and was unable to raise them. Unfortunately, these two children sort of languished in our system and through the dependency system. And I was able to help them find permanency and new home foster parents who loved them and adored them and raise them. I have heard that they are
Michael Renfro 15:30
about to ask. So thank you just let’s hear the update. Give it to me.
Molly Rosenblum 15:34
They are now adults, and one is in the military. And one is in school here locally, in college. And just I think that for me, knowing that
Michael Renfro 15:46
you truly changed the course of someone’s life. Well, for the better.
Molly Rosenblum 15:51
Yeah. And I do think they still have contracts with their mom as as their biological mother,
Michael Renfro 15:58
if they can, I totally, I mean, if you can even want you know, especially once you become an adult, it’s almost a necessity if it is possible to repair that, because there’s pain there. And if you don’t deal with it, it eats you away anyway, which, you know, tells me that they, you know, their their new parents not only raised them well, but taught them and gave them a lot of great tools to deal with the anguish of their previous lives before getting there. Yeah,
Molly Rosenblum 16:23
so it was really not for me, I know, it’s probably it was a pro bono case we didn’t get paid for it was on like, I gotta just awesome judgment. But that is my favorite. I think my favorite my guest achievement
Michael Renfro 16:36
attorney. So well, it speaks volumes of who you are as a person. Let me just say that. And the fact that you left the personal injury, the fact of where you started out and why you left also, in my opinion, speaks volumes as well. So we kind of we got Thank you. You’re welcome. Excuse me. We kind of touched on it. But what what do you think has given you the most traction over the last 16 years?
Molly Rosenblum 17:03
As much traction? As far as the practice goes,
Michael Renfro 17:10
as far as as far as let’s just say, because I imagine it’s not all the same practice over the 16 years. So let’s just say in concerns to your specific career.
Molly Rosenblum 17:18
Yeah, I mean, for me,
Michael Renfro 17:21
are you? Is it still, by the way? Is this still the same practice that you started 16 years ago? Or is this not
Molly Rosenblum 17:26
even close? That’s what I thought. So I have grown from a sole practitioner, kind of working with my husband and my mother in law. We now have I employed four other attorneys, we are a five person law practice. I have five paralegals a legal assistant, a full time Biller, a full time receptionist, and a to office people and human resource partner. So we are a bigger practice in Las Vegas. Definitely not the same practice that I have when I started. Right. We, of course, have expanded in other areas of law. Probably for me, what got me the most traction is just you know, waking up every day and thinking, What can I do? Wait, how can I get my client
Michael Renfro 18:11
change this make it for the better and a good way? How can I inflict good positive forward moving change?
Molly Rosenblum 18:17
Yeah, and also being sort of a voice of reason, right? So a lot of times, we get clients who come in, and they just they want the sun, the moon and the stars, and we kind of have to bring them back down to earth
Michael Renfro 18:28
and expectations, setting them setting expectations is important. And our I say our because, yes, I represent attorneys, but it’s relationship many times it’s very similar. You know, we’re now representing you folks, right? And setting expectations at the beginning of that relationship is so key, because otherwise you will you can potentially have a very unhappy and unhappy client and bad relationship with them, if not done
Molly Rosenblum 18:57
Yes, very much. And so one of the things that I have instilled in my, in the associates that work for me is, you know, we have our core values as a firm, but one of them is is straightforward responses.
Michael Renfro 19:10
So don’t beat around the bush don’t beat around
Molly Rosenblum 19:14
the client like it is, you know, I tell people, often we’re not your friends on social media Rorion you Our job is to tell you what you need to know not what you want to hear. Right. So a lot of times those conversations can be difficult. And oh, yeah. So, you know, definitely being known as someone in the community who isn’t just taking retainers in and charging people to to have really what I would deem a frivolous position. You really try to get folks to be reasonable and understand where they are. Yeah, you’re always gonna have the cases you’ve got to fight and usually that’s because the other side is being unreasonable. So and we’re prepared for that too, but A lot of times it is and we do have that reputation of being very reasonable, very realistic, very goal oriented with our clients.
Michael Renfro 20:09
I like the not beating around the bush, one of my biggest pet peeves is someone that literally could have just asked me the freaking question that they asked after like five segues, and like, there was no need for that, dude. First of all, you don’t need to make sure I’m going to be okay with it, just ask I’m either gonna be okay or I’m not. But if you do all this setup, I’m actually more prone to probably not being okay with it at that point, because I’m just tired of listening.
Molly Rosenblum 20:35
Yep. Like fewer words, I need to tell me when to even let’s get on with it
Michael Renfro 20:43
Less is more. There is a reason that that adage has become you know, especially in our day and age of fast moving and fast paced, you learn to say a lot more and fewer words. And you you get further that way. So yes, I would agree. I would. So I know you named a challenge with that. Would you say that your would you say that was your biggest challenge? Or if not? What was the biggest challenge that you overcame? That gave you the most traction? Challenge wise here? professionally or personally, it’s whichever you would like to discuss.
Molly Rosenblum 21:15
So there are a couple of things. I mean, I can point to a couple of things. I you know, when I first started practice, in Las Vegas, it was sort of a gloomy time to go out on my own right, she doesn’t he does a nine Nash give or take. I’m not a great economy, people were a lot arguing over debt. And as a sole practitioner, it was not a awesome time to start a law practice
Michael Renfro 21:40
kind of feels like a similar time right now, by the way, just to just to throw that out there. Arguing about debt again.
Molly Rosenblum 21:47
Does it does I mean, you know, housing market, and they get started determine a little bit sort of starting to get that feeling of like, are we headed back to that? And so definitely starting a law practice in that economy. Not fabulous. Right? I had a lot of financial challenges for me and my husband at the time, you know, at the time you’re trying to manage
Michael Renfro 22:12
emotionally, too, because it beats down on you when there’s so much negativity, even though you’re trying to start something positive.
Molly Rosenblum 22:19
Yeah, it can be it. It was, I think, at the time, sort of that fear of like, are we going to make it? Are we going to
Michael Renfro 22:27
wear that fear out? Gotta push it out?
Molly Rosenblum 22:31
Yeah, and a lot of mistakes made along the way, you know, starting a law practice. So having overcome that, too, as always, I mean, I know, I know, we’re talking about, you know, mistakes being made and what people can do when they start a practice. So I definitely have a lot of lessons there. Definitely a lot.
Michael Renfro 22:49
You know, a lot of attorneys touch on this. So I’m curious what your take is. And what I mean by that is one of the things that almost every attorney who has done what you have done and gone down at least a road of having their own firm for five more five or more years, right is what I’m talking about here. They most of them say one of the biggest lessons they learned I’m just curious if your opinion on this was when to not take a client when you like learning that just because you needed the money in the door, and bills need to be paid, you’re like, I’m not taking that lady or that guy because it’s going to cost me more money, no matter what I do, or more time and energy, which again, is ultimately money, right? If you have to spend all that energy. So I’m curious what your what your take on that is and how quickly did it take you to learn that one?
Molly Rosenblum 23:40
Um, I don’t know that it took me much time at all. I think for younger attorneys, and even some of the attorneys that work for me they have some difficulty determining is this client a fit for our firm? So we are very much and we talk about our ideal our ideal clients and what they kind of look like, you know, demographic wise, communication wise, are they a fit? And so we’ve, I’ve over the years have sort of drilled into that
Michael Renfro 24:16
checklist in your head if nothing else, like when you’re on the phone did that okay, cool, we can
Molly Rosenblum 24:22
find a fit, right? Do they fit with our values with what we are known for? You know, we have turned away multimillion dollar cases simply because we didn’t feel that we could represent that person the way they wanted. occasion
Michael Renfro 24:39
is huge. If you don’t think you can communicate or if you feel like the communication is going to always be poor on one side, no matter how well you deliver yourself.
Molly Rosenblum 24:48
Right? To develop right, the red flags so people can call and use certain buzzwords or say certain things or, you know, have been through nine other attorneys that you know
Michael Renfro 25:00
Hey, wait a minute, my number nine on this
Molly Rosenblum 25:04
feed number 10? Probably not, you know, we’ll pass you along, you know, and sometimes financially, it just isn’t a fit for us either. We don’t want to put a client in a situation where, you know, we’re charging them a retainer, and then they can’t afford it.
Michael Renfro 25:19
No, I get that. I love that. Thank you. That’s actually, you know, I think you’re the first person that’s actually brought it up on the other side. And what I mean by that is talked about the fact that you knew they simply couldn’t afford your services. And although you would love to help them, you send them probably somewhere, I’m assuming you probably have some referral networks of places and other places they can go and get help. That’s cool that you brought that side up to
Molly Rosenblum 25:42
where, you know, we we try to be realistic with people and we help where we can I mean, our firm does offer some flexibility and
Michael Renfro 25:50
payment plans, maybe something like that. If if it I imagine that’s on? Yeah, from the sounds of it. I imagine those things are really individually done on a case by case after you’ve gotten to know Oh, yeah, person, and you’re like, yes, you know, I want to help you. And I trust that you are going to complete your end of it, you know, and we can we can come up with an agreement that, yeah,
Molly Rosenblum 26:11
absolutely, absolutely. But we can also I think over the years have learned to look at a case and say, you know, this person needs to hire experts, or allegations are so extreme that it’s just going to take so much time that they financially, it’s just not a fit for our firm. We know what it’s going to take on our end to give them the best reputation. Representation. Right, right. And it’s just, they’re financially we don’t want to put them in a hole with us either. So
Michael Renfro 26:42
yeah, again, I love it. I love it. Yeah. What I mean by that is I love that you’re looking at you’re, you’re truly trying to look at all the angles for the fit and make sure that it’s, you know, as, as long as everything lines up, and like you say no red flags pop up, and you you feel good about it. Right? Yeah. Who would you say is a mentor? And what would be the best piece of advice that you’ve gotten from?
Molly Rosenblum 27:06
Oh, okay, so I’m not? Yes. So why when I first started practicing, I worked with the gentleman by the name of Neil galatz, he has since passed away. I’m sorry, he was. So in Nevada, the BART license numbers are in order of year that you pass out the bar, or that you pass the bar. So mine is like 1000. And something his was three, he was, I think the third attorney in the state of Nevada to get it to get a number associated with his bar, like, wow, Sunil had been around and he had worked on some of the greatest cases, legal cases in Nevada, Tapcon and MGM fire some of the big litigation. And I think the best piece of advice he ever gave me was, you can never count someone else’s money. That, and that is something not just as an attorney that I take. But I also tell my clients, you know, when we’re looking at alimony or looking at selling a house, you can’t count somebody else’s money. It’s not your money until you have it in your hands. Right. So when I have a client looking at a child support case, or an alimony case, we try to work through that. That mentality of well, what happens is, this person doesn’t pay
Michael Renfro 28:25
pay, right? We’ve always got to be prepared for the contingency that not every dude or chick is going to pay what they’re supposed to pay when it comes down to it, even if law has said so.
Molly Rosenblum 28:36
And so I mean, we’ve we’ve used that from the practice lens, right from the practice management lens. Look that it’s the client doesn’t pay you how are we going to deal with us, but also from the practitioner lens for the client of look, if you’re trying to divide in the state? And the money isn’t yours? How are you going to get it? What are you going to do? What are you going to be able to make your electric bill that month if your spouse doesn’t pay the alimony or child support checks, so probably the best piece of advice I ever got from a lawyer was that so yeah, y’all for sure was one another attorney that I have since required, the lar Bach and he really taught me on the brief writing and and representation angle and sometimes in my mind, I always think how would fill handle this case? Just, you know, be straight be direct to the point, especially with judges, they’ve got 1000s of cases to read, and
Michael Renfro 29:33
they don’t know Yeah, less is so much more with a judge. Yeah, they don’t
Molly Rosenblum 29:37
want to go through the garbage. You know, tell them what they need to know and and think to yourself, if you’re the judge, what would you want to know about this? Don’t give them a 10 page backstory when you could give him a two sentence backstory. So Phil really directed me in that way. You know, to kind of narrow down my writing and get to the point with the judges, and present that case So
Michael Renfro 30:01
just the facts, ma’am. Yep, just so in a typical day, and I’m looking for maybe one of the most important ones, but what would you say is like a daily ritual that is something you must do. And a typical day that you feel like is part of your your pattern of success.
Molly Rosenblum 30:20
I have so many rituals that are limited to
Michael Renfro 30:24
Molly Rosenblum 30:26
Okay. daily ritual, for sure. I check my Google Analytics every single day, which I know they tell you in marketing you should I do. Every single day, I check Google Analytics, and I look for patterns across our analytics to see, you know, spikes or drops, or was our website still on? Does Google shut us down? So that I check every single day? I walk every single day, 20 minutes every single morning? Yes, in the morning. Start today with a 20 minute walk rain or shine no matter what the weather is I get outside and get that 20 minutes there and, and just kind of think about think my way through the day before I look at a device before I turn on the computer before I do anything else.
Michael Renfro 31:19
It’s part of meditation as well as part of exercise.
Molly Rosenblum 31:23
It is it is. And then the other thing I do is I will meet with at least one team member in my office every single day to talk about the day talk about their mental state where they are kind of what they’re feeling, as far as practice goes. For probably a good 10 or 15 minutes every day, just kind of have that one on one time to to work our way through, you know, any issues. They’re saying personnel wise, buy it from a client perspective, from a workload perspective, just kind of touch base with them. So yeah, that’s cool. I like that. Those would probably be my top three things I try to do every single day for sure.
Michael Renfro 32:05
I liked the last one, particularly just because it it definitely presents that open door policy that you can talk to me about everything because I’m literally asking you to sit down twice a month and you know, spill it. Sure. Yep. Yeah. Very cool. Here’s one for you. So what’s something that most people do not know about you that you might call a quirk a strange habit or even just a hobby or something like that, that most people don’t know.
Molly Rosenblum 32:35
I started weightlifting lately. I think a lot of people don’t know that because of how on camera so you can see I maybe you can see. That is my wall.
Michael Renfro 32:47
Are those all weightlifting metals?
Molly Rosenblum 32:49
Those are not so I did. Before I started doing the weightlifting. I was doing Ironman triathlons, believe it or not. You’re a triathlete. And did a lot of that. And I subsequently stopped doing that. With age and time, but
Michael Renfro 33:09
everything changes, Nothing ever stays the same.
Molly Rosenblum 33:12
So I think a lot of people still think I’m doing races all the time. I am not I have stopped racing. And I you still
Michael Renfro 33:17
look extremely healthy. You know, I don’t see any fat on you. So maybe that’s why people are like, well, you don’t look, you look like you’re still you know, probably away. And of course you still walk every morning. So I mean, it’s not like you’re getting unhealthy.
Molly Rosenblum 33:31
Yeah. So that’s something new. I think maybe people don’t know. I’m cool.
Michael Renfro 33:38
Well, here’s here’s a more extreme than what is the craziest thing you’ve ever done? But isn’t this work whatever that you’re okay with sharing to the world? And by the way, can you just turn your camera a little bit back because you’re now almost caught off? Cut off? That way. There we go. There we go. Yep.
Molly Rosenblum 33:57
PCs thing I gosh, I think our man’s probably the craziest thing.
Michael Renfro 34:02
How many times how many times did you compete if you don’t want to?
Molly Rosenblum 34:05
I have attempted a full distance Ironman three. I have completed one. I had a medical event in the last one I did and decided that full distance Ironman was not for me. I have done. Oh, gosh, I can’t even count how many half Ironman I just did one in July. And that was sort of the end for me. shorter distance races, as many are on my wall and probably more that you can’t see. Right? So yeah, lots and lots.
Michael Renfro 34:33
Oh, the Ironman is crazy enough. Trust me. Like that’s my father back in the 80s. And I say that because it was still an early concept. But he ran two marathons back to back and train, you know, like, trained for a couple of years before he started doing that. Of course he’s one of the early ones. So you know, he has bad knees because they did not have all the protection for running and all the shock absorbance that they have now for running on calm. concrete and around the city. So,
Molly Rosenblum 35:02
yeah, I think that’s probably for me about as I think crazy things. I have a lot of pets. I think sometimes my husband thinks that’s crazy.
Michael Renfro 35:15
That’s not crazy. So, how about this one? Where are you from? And what was it like growing up there? Um,
Molly Rosenblum 35:24
so I was born in Virginia. I lived there until I was I think two My parents still okay, so it was. So I’m from Las Vegas and grew up here. I’m young girl. From here. I obviously it was important here, but I’m from here. My kids were born here. I’ve lived here.
Michael Renfro 35:42
Well, I don’t even want to say you’re like Leslie Note, though. You know, you might not You’re definitely a Las Vegas hometown girl, you just didn’t pop there. That’s all.
Molly Rosenblum 35:54
It’s been a huge change. Vegas is not the same place I grew up. For sure. The population I think is double grown up. Since I grew up here,
Michael Renfro 36:04
it went from being just a tourist place that people actually want to live and come out and you know, be a part of Vegas because I’ve seen that change. You know, springs is where I am here, Colorado Springs, and it’s a town that has has blown up after becoming, you know, kind of a tourist destination and then people that want to live there.
Molly Rosenblum 36:24
Yeah, Vegas is definitely definitely changed. You know, a different demographic here. Now, I think there was definitely a lot more industry than just the casinos. So
Michael Renfro 36:37
Oh, yeah. You got some software companies. You got a lot of marketing companies, sales companies. Yep.
Molly Rosenblum 36:42
Yep. And now with the raiders here and the Golden Knights here and a lot of professional teams and our vacancy on the national that’s
Michael Renfro 36:49
gonna change it. Trust me that is that is gonna like you’re gonna get a whole new once you have one of the professional teams, whether it’s basketball, football, baseball, or even soccer, or hockey, actually, there’s really five any of those will bring in a whole new, ya know, like we’re getting ready to hear because we’re about to we are trying to bid for it or we want it but I know Denver is trying to I think I think they actually won the bid. So FIFA is coming I think to Denver so that’ll be crazy. When you were a little girl back there in Vegas, what did you actually want to become? It wasn’t always an attorney or was there something else you wanted to be when you were growing up?
Molly Rosenblum 37:30
Always an attorney? Always? Yeah, yeah. Kill a Mockingbird. And I
Michael Renfro 37:38
was about to ask you is that is that is that where your inspiration and biggest influence was was To Kill a Mockingbird?
Molly Rosenblum 37:43
I think kill Mockingbird and Mississippi Burning are the two that I was like these that that’s where I’m going.
Michael Renfro 37:51
Yeah, I just That’s funny. I just watched To Kill a Mockingbird again the other day up. I love Apple movies and they sell them for like 499 Now, you know they’ll put them on sale. Yeah, I will definitely pick up something like that. I got that one and wellbeing remand. Yeah. 10 bucks for the two. I was like, just I’m assuming you probably have a love for 12 Angry Men to
Molly Rosenblum 38:15
probably Yeah. Yeah, I think but you for me. Were really mean to kill Mockingbird first probably. And then you know the movie Mississippi Burning?
Michael Renfro 38:24
Oh, yeah. No, I get it. I get I was always saying I’m sure you love 12 You’re meant only for what it is. Oh, yeah. You know, the jury aspect. I will throw this out there. If you ever get a chance. good criminal defense movie, that you would I doubt that you’ll not enjoy it. I’m just telling you. But it’s called from the hip. And it came out in the 80s. And it stars, several people but the main star is John Nelson from our breakfast club right up there with the glove on. And he plays a young fledging attorney that gets his first it’s literally covers his first two cases. And I always tell people, it’s really great because the first half of the movie is literally almost just a balls out comedy. Like just very, very funny. And then the second part is just straight drama and intense. suspense, you’re like, I mean, it’s really you don’t see a lot of movies, do that and pull it off well, and you don’t feel the swish until you went until you’re done. And you’re like, Wow, that really took a turn. Yeah. So yeah, it’s really good from the hip.
Molly Rosenblum 39:26
I gotta try it. Yeah, you’ll
Michael Renfro 39:28
I promise you like it, I promise. So what is your and I know the answer is me. So I’m just teasing. What’s your favorite podcast?
Molly Rosenblum 39:40
I like I like the CNBC podcasts. I listen to those quite frequently. I like there’s a guy I don’t want to say it might be your competitor. Mike Vogel does the podcast. You can love his staff. So yeah, those are probably my top my top
Michael Renfro 40:00
Cool. I like hearing the fact that you actually have one that’s related to what I do for a living because that means lawyers are actually listening to our type of podcasts.
Molly Rosenblum 40:08
Oh, sure. Yeah. I love my stuff. It’s great. What’s your favorite conference? Um, I am going to the game changer Summit.
Michael Renfro 40:19
So that is your favorite. I haven’t met yet. So this is your first first attendance. Gotcha.
Molly Rosenblum 40:26
I’m excited to go. I haven’t been. It’s been a long time since I’ve traveled at any conferences.
Michael Renfro 40:33
Well, we’ve been dealing with this, you know, thing we call the pandemic. So
Molly Rosenblum 40:38
I might people just went locally to the deaths Conference, which is the indigent defense. So they just did that one. We’ve got another conference coming up in October for specialty courts, drug courts that we’re going to do,
Michael Renfro 40:52
which is criminal. So you said drug court, right. Yeah. Yeah. Just out of curiosity, before we do you guys handle the, because a lot of criminal defense, places will will shy away. And I’m just curious, do you handle the sex crimes?
Molly Rosenblum 41:09
We do? Yes. Our offense does do sex.
Michael Renfro 41:12
That’s a That’s a crazy one. I’ll tell you that. I’ve seen that. Again, obviously, from an industry standpoint, you know, one of the first things I saw for that as I was talking to an attorney and trying to help him get more cases. And one of the biggest things that attorney can do to get more cases is their reviews. And he’s like, Yeah, nobody ever writes a review when I saved them from a sex crime. Right? Yeah, I get it. I get it. So nobody’s, yeah, I was accused of this. And he, it’s not gonna happen. So
Molly Rosenblum 41:43
we do, because of our work in the dependency area we do. Sometimes the allegation of sex abuse, right. Do you deal with that?
Michael Renfro 41:52
No, absolutely. It makes it? I mean, obviously, you can understand why is it because it makes sense that you end up having to, especially Vegas, it’s a, let’s face it, Vegas is known for being one of the sexier cities in our country, considering the laws that they already have. And you know, the differences that are already there that I won’t even mention. So. Last question for you. What is your favorite tool and or software? Because last time is being a piece of software. But what’s the one thing that you just could not do without to perform your day?
Molly Rosenblum 42:26
We’re on take a lot. And our court system uses a program called Blue Jeans, which is similar to zoom. I would say for me in my practice, oh, there’s so many I’m probably might we use my case software as a case management tool that sort of practice we’d sort of be lost
Michael Renfro 42:43
without that kind of like your CRM within the dig? Don’t
Molly Rosenblum 42:47
you know, sadly, they don’t have a CRM feature that I’m aware of with it. I keep telling the law firm case management companies like you guys just added DRM feature in this, that they do not have that which is unfortunate. I think serum is cash we’re using, we use keep is one right now. It keep used to be I think Infusionsoft and then they change their name.
Michael Renfro 43:15
I think I think you’re correct there. But you know a l,ot of the software, I mean, I’m not trying to sound rude, but things just move faster. So they get bought and sold. And I like it when they don’t rebrand because just, you know, just put a little different buy at the bottom. It’s buy this now or buy this now. And so I know that you’re not necessarily the same company, but you’re still the same product essentially. So great. Yeah. Yeah. Well, Molly, I have I’ve had, it’s been an absolute pleasure on my end. Thank you so much for joining us today. They’re from the beautiful city of Las Vegas. I hope you have a wonderful weekend. And maybe in a year or two, you can come back and give us an update on that. For sure. Thanks for having me.
No, absolutely. Thank you so much. Have a wonderful weekend.
Molly Rosenblum 43:58
Thank you too.
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